According to WXIN, Joseph Tompkins, a resident of
Knightstown, Indiana, enlisted the help of the American Civil Liberties Union
to sue the town after it topped a public Christmas tree display with a cross
instead of a star. The lawsuit claimed the topper was a violation of the First
Amendment because it blurred the lines between separation of church and state.
"The cross is the best known symbol of Christianity and
Knightstown's prominent display of this symbol represents an establishment of
religion in violation of the First Amendment to the United States
Constitution," the complaint said.
The lawsuit demanded that the town compensate Tompkins for
being "forced to come into direct and unwelcome contact with the cross
display" every day. Tompkins said he objected "to any of his tax
dollars going to pay for the erection or maintenance of the display or the
lighting of it," according to court documents.
But residents of the town opposed Tompkins' argument.
"Just because one person's offended, doesn't mean they have
to take away one particular thing," resident Cynthia Sturgill told WXIN.
Other residents disagreed with Tompkins' claim and said that
the display wasn't religious.
"To me, it's not a religious display," Sturgill
told WXIN. "It's not all about just Christianity. It's about memorial,
loss of family, loved ones, the veterans."
To combat the lawsuit, Knightstown resident Patricia Hutson
crafted more than 200 wooden crosses to hand out for free to send a message.
People also put crosses in their yards, stores, windows and cars, according to
WXIN.
"I just thought we should rebel some way or let him
know how we feel," Hutson told WXIN. "I hope they make people realize
that we should speak up for what we believe in and stand up for it and not be
pushed around."
A group gathered Sunday night to express support for the
cross-topped tree Sunday night.
Monday morning, a Facebook page for the town announced the
cross had been taken down.
"It is with regret and sadness that the Knightstown
Town Council has had the cross removed from the Christmas tree on the town
square and is expected to approve a resolution at the next council meeting
stating they will not return the cross to the tree," the council said in a
Facebook post."
Tompkins told WXIN he wasn't offended by the cross, but
rather valued upholding the First Amendment.
Let me raise my hand to Tompkins, and both hands to the ACLU.
Here's why.
If his lawsuit was based soley on his (very common) misinterpretation of the first amendment, why is he not opposed to the tree?
A CHRISTmas tree is ALL ABOUT CHRISTianity....that's why it is called CHRISTmas.
A couple of millennia ago, there was This Guy named CHRIST (no disrespect intended, Lord, please remember that I am trying to get through to an imbecile).
CHRISTmas is the commemoration of His birthday, and CHRISTianity is the label assigned to the various religions that worship Him.
Clear enough for ya, Joey?
Also, the first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Seems to me that Congress did not make the display, so where is the violation?
I do not see where it says anything about what the Knightstown Town Council is allowed to do.
It also seems to me (and to some wiser than me) that what this amendment means is that Congress cannot implement a national religion.
Remember, many of the initial European settlers of this continent resented what King Henry did with the Church of England and settled the colonies for the freedom to practice religion as they liked.
Which includes putting a cross on top of a tree if they feel like it.
Finally, do you see the words "separation of church and state" in the amendment, or, for that matter ANYWHERE in the Constitution?
Wanna know why?
They're NOT IN THERE!
Read a book called "Original Intent" by David Barton if you'd like to know more about this common misconception.
Finally, do you see the words "separation of church and state" in the amendment, or, for that matter ANYWHERE in the Constitution?
Wanna know why?
They're NOT IN THERE!
Read a book called "Original Intent" by David Barton if you'd like to know more about this common misconception.
So, Joey, you are misinformed, uninformed and full of ka-ka.
And I salute you with my middle finger as the frigging moron you are.
I hope your neighbors decorate your house with crosses and hold prayer vigils on the sidewalk in front of your home.
But most of all, I hope that by next Christmas, you have a freaking life.
What I find ironically funny is that the cross has been removed and no doubt replaced by the traditional star. So now it's "acceptable" to this atheist asshole and the Communist ACLU.
ReplyDeleteOne thing though: What do those mental defectives think THE STAR represents?
The star on the top of Christmas trees -- representing "the star of Bethlehem" -- is symbolic of the birth of Jesus Christ. The cross symbolizes His death which atoned for mankind's sins.
So, the cross transgresses the mythical "separation of church and state" but the star which announced the birth of Christ does NOT transgress the phony law.
What a bunch of maroons! Not even two brain cells to call their own.
~ D-FensDogG
'Loyal American Underground'
Didn't even think of the fact that a star might be there, Stephen-but the whole symbolism of a Christmas tree should have been the issue....although I did find an article today with this quote from the ACLU legal director:
Delete"The cross is not a Christmas symbol," Falk said. "The cross is the pre-eminent symbol of Christianity and it reminds Christians not of the secular trappings of Christmas, but of the crucifixion and the resurrection of Jesus."
Maybe the ACLU was just upset because the cross is more closely aligned with Easter, and they prefer a star!
Nah, probably the less than two brain cells thing.
Actually, the star ("of Bethlehem") at the top is an even stronger Christian symbol than the tree itself.
DeleteReason being that pagans were decorating trees before the time of Christ, and the "Christmas tree" is therefore, technically, a "borrowed" symbol. But the star at the top is clearly a Biblically-derived symbol signifying the Savior's birth as described in the Gospels.
But expecting any intelligence from the ACLU is clearly a mistake, and perhaps they feel that a fight against all star tree-toppers is a fight they can't win, while the cross is an easier target.
~ D-FensDogG
Total agreement here. Well put.
ReplyDeleteBTW to STMC - I just went a few rounds with Andrew LOLeon. You are right about him. Wish I coulda watched you roast him.